I wonder if any of the other issues of the Tim Holt comics contain puzzles, cryptograms, etc…

I have been looking, but haven’t seen anything that stood out for me as yet.

Do you have any opinion on whether a comic book might be a likely place to hide codes?

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Thanks for the information on this White Elephant. I wonder if this sort of trading thing was commonplace back then. It’s odd to think that Zodiac would have had any friends to trade comics with. Unless he had a normal up bringing and had some sort of psychotic break or shift in personality that lead him to start killing.

Given Zodiac’s estimated age of around 35 years old, he could have had a son or nephew who read and/or traded comic books.

Given Zodiac’s estimated age of around 35 years old, he could have had a son or nephew who read and/or traded comic books.

Either that, or he was a younger man (late twenties or so) who read comics himself.

I can totally envision Zodiac reading EC horror or sci-fi titles, MAD Magazine or counterculture comix.

I can totally envision Zodiac reading EC horror or sci-fi titles, MAD Magazine or counterculture comix.

I picture him as an enthusiastic purchaser of Playgirl magazine.

Seagull the only person to put Zodiac at 35 years of age was Foulke, whom you have no way of confirming he encountered a murderer that night.
Sorry for speaking out of term here, but my POI had a collection of Play Boy Magazines that spanned 20 years, a huge collection by the time of
his death. If Zodiac were a younger man, as the eye and ear witnesses describe, he could have been very into comics, hence the codes.
The whole concept of a named killer such as the Zodiac, is comical and in fact very juvenile. Zodiac was no kind of a man.

Sorry for speaking out of term here, but my POI had a collection of Play Boy Magazines that spanned 20 years, a huge collection by the time of
his death.

I don’t understand the relevance of this? I really don’t think the fact your husband collected Playboys has anything to do with this thread. Sorry…

Zodiac could have been in his early 20’s all the way up into his 40’s. He read magazines,newspapers,and maybe comic books. That fits a whole lot of men in the SF bay area. To ONEWHOKNOW’S point, a comic book aspect,or the creation of a super-villain,the ‘Zodiac’ character, certainly could seem to point to a younger guy, but then again, maybe Z grew up in a rough world,and used his fantasy or imagination as an escape-for example, look at ‘ZODE’ from San Bernardino, Zode was picked on relentlessly in school,it seems as if he faced alot of torment, and to make things worse,his parents seemed to coddle him or protect him, which might have made him an even bigger target. His defense?….he called himself ‘Zodiac’ (before the Zodiac Killer called himself that). He spoke in the 3rd person like ‘Zodiac is going to’ or ‘this is Zodiac speaking’. Maybe Zodiac,used this same method for coping with troubles in his life. My point is, Zodiac no doubt for whatever reason, maybe as an escape was into this comic book or connected to it somehow

Zodiac could have been in his early 20’s all the way up into his 40’s. He read magazines,newspapers,and maybe comic books. That fits a whole lot of men in the SF bay area. To ONEWHOKNOW’S point, a comic book aspect,or the creation of a super-villain,the ‘Zodiac’ character, certainly could seem to point to a younger guy, but then again, maybe Z grew up in a rough world,and used his fantasy or imagination as an escape-for example, look at ‘ZODE’ from San Bernardino, Zode was picked on relentlessly in school,it seems as if he faced alot of torment, and to make things worse,his parents seemed to coddle him or protect him, which might have made him an even bigger target. His defense?….he called himself ‘Zodiac’ (before the Zodiac Killer called himself that). He spoke in the 3rd person like ‘Zodiac is going to’ or ‘this is Zodiac speaking’. Maybe Zodiac,used this same method for coping with troubles in his life. My point is, Zodiac no doubt for whatever reason, maybe as an escape was into this comic book or connected to it somehow

Yes, it COULD point to a younger man, but this case is full of coulds. I mean, most people think Zodiac was probably around 30 years old. Is that a young man reading comics? I think we mostly think of younger boys/teens reading comic books. Not that older men don’t…we know they do. But, with this particular comic being as old as it is (1952), if Zodiac were 12 years old in 1952, that would put him around 30 in 1969.

So my point being…I don’t think it points to a younger guy in 1969, but one who was influenced by a lot of this stuff when he himself was a younger man.

COULD be too some older guy simply saw it in a library and thought it looked creepy evil.

I forget, did you mention that the cattle symbol used at the Colorado Ranch was also in the same comic book someplace?
I really think that you found a big clue Tahoe. The fact that symbol zodiac sent in the Halloween card is very close to a symbol used by the same rancher that was associated with that comic book and the wheel of doom,could be a clue of some sort, maybe a connection to that ranch??

I forget, did you mention that the cattle symbol used at the Colorado Ranch was also in the same comic book someplace?
I really think that you found a big clue Tahoe. The fact that symbol zodiac sent in the Halloween card is very close to a symbol used by the same rancher that was associated with that comic book and the wheel of doom,could be a clue of some sort, maybe a connection to that ranch??

There was an ad for the Red Ryder gun in the back of the Tim Holt comic…not the cattle brand.

I forget, did you mention that the cattle symbol used at the Colorado Ranch was also in the same comic book someplace?
I really think that you found a big clue Tahoe. The fact that symbol zodiac sent in the Halloween card is very close to a symbol used by the same rancher that was associated with that comic book and the wheel of doom,could be a clue of some sort, maybe a connection to that ranch??

There was an ad for the Red Ryder gun in the back of the Tim Holt comic…not the cattle brand.

Well that makes it even more interesting then,IMO. Fred H. was connected to the wheel of doom comic book. He was also connected to the odd cattle symbol, not included in the comic book. Assuming that Zodiac did use the cattle symbol as the influence for his weird symbol in the halloween card, he also happens to reference the cattle of doom comic,all in the same Halloween card? I could see if the actual cattle brand appeared in the book and z saw it and liked it, but it didnt,which means that Z was familiar with the symbol for some other reasons, but fact is, Fred, the Colorado Rancher, may be the common link,and Z may be connected to him somehow. The possible link is worthy of being researched,IMO

Fred H did the Red Ryder comics but Frank Bolle drew the Tim Holt comic that Tahoe posted. Unless I missed something…..

Fred H did the Red Ryder comics but Frank Bolle drew the Tim Holt comic that Tahoe posted. Unless I missed something…..

That is correct.